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		<title>How to React to the Fall of Rome &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the previous post we saw that the ancient church's view of a historical phenomenon (namely, the Roman Empire) shifted dramatically within the space of a few generations, on account of their particular experiences with that empire. I would suggest that we have seen something somewhat similar take place over the past few generations up [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://julianfreeman.ca">Julian Freeman</a><br/><br/><a href="http://julianfreeman.ca/augustine/how-to-react-to-the-fall-of-rome-part-2">How to React to the Fall of Rome &#8211; Part 2</a></p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the previous post we saw that the ancient church's view of a historical phenomenon (namely, the Roman Empire) shifted dramatically within the space of a few generations, on account of their particular experiences with that empire.</p>
<p>I would suggest that we have seen something somewhat similar take place over the past few generations up until our day--though not with an empire, per se.</p>
<p>I think it is particularly interesting to see how many Christians lament over the end of modernism the way Jerome mourned the fall of Rome. So many of us weep over modernism as if it was a Christian creation, designed for the spread of the gospel--God's chosen means for reaching the world.</p>
<p>In reality, there is little that is further from the truth. In and of itself modernism was never a friend to the gospel. Secular modernist philosophers and scientists have always used modernism as a means of attacking and discrediting the claims of the Christian faith.</p>
<p><a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/Rqn1BGtqf3I/AAAAAAAAAG4/zyCIT4jt62g/s1600-h/caduta.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5091870253049872242" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/Rqn1BGtqf3I/AAAAAAAAAG4/zyCIT4jt62g/s200/caduta.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>For all the ways that modernism has provided a platform for displaying the truthfulness of Christianity (text criticism, archaeological studies of ancient cities, much of creation science, etc.), it was never a 'Christian' view.</p>
<p>The trustworthiness of Christianity in a modern mindset boils down to little more than making a 'case for Christ' logically. The trouble is that Christianity, by its very nature, will not fit in these categories.</p>
<p>All that we are as Christians is based on the claim that Jesus Christ was entirely God and entirely man, lived a perfect life fulfilling God's law, suffered and died to take on the curse of the law for us who receive his righteousness, and that God really did physically and literally raise him from the dead.</p>
<p>But here's the deal: I can't <span style="font-style: italic;">prove</span> that to you in a scientific way. I can point to evidences, but that's all. There is something necessarily personal and experiential (existential?) about the Christian faith. What we believe is not relativism, because our believing does not determine whether something is true or false, but our faith <span style="font-weight: bold;">is</span> what saves us.</p>
<p>In other words, it's something <span style="font-style: italic;">personal, internal, 'unprovable'</span> that makes all the difference in the world. That's what our religion is based on. This is the kind of thing that modernists can't grasp. They want something to touch, to examine, to test, to prove.</p>
<p>So what then? Do we rejoice over the fall of Rome? Do we rush off to align ourselves with the newest invaders who have come to expose Rome's weaknesses? Do we embrace all that is postmodernism with open arms?</p>
<p>I suggest that we do what Augustine did. We use this opportunity to look around and evaluate from the perspective of eternity. What about modernism was evil and passing? What was good? What reflected God? How was modernism used for the spread of the kingdom?</p>
<p>And then, we ought to begin asking some careful questions about the 'empire' that is coming upon us. How can we use its strengths and its weaknesses to further the cause of the kingdom? How does postmodernism provide ways for the gospel to go forth that modernism never would?</p>
<p>In the end we must remember that neither modernism nor postmodernism is 'God's perspective.' These philosophical mindsets are of man, and they will pass. We need to examine the world around us closely so that we can see how to better hope in, trust in, and point to the world that is to come.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking over my notes today from my early church history course, I noticed something interesting. It's nothing new or profound, but it caught my attention anyway. The church's response to the fall of Rome was weird, in many ways. I think it's necessary to lay some background before we move on. From the founding of [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://julianfreeman.ca">Julian Freeman</a><br/><br/><a href="http://julianfreeman.ca/augustine/how-to-react-to-the-fall-of-rome-part-1">How to React to the Fall of Rome &#8211; Part 1</a></p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWcGtqf0I/AAAAAAAAAGg/6hziYPdmYxk/s1600-h/emperor+nero.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5091132944604102466" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWcGtqf0I/AAAAAAAAAGg/6hziYPdmYxk/s200/emperor+nero.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>Looking over my notes today from my early church history course, I noticed something interesting. It's nothing new or profound, but it caught my attention anyway. The church's response to the fall of Rome was weird, in many ways.</p>
<p>I think it's necessary to lay some background before we move on.</p>
<p>From the founding of Christianity (Pentecost somewhere around 33AD) to 64AD the Christian church enjoyed religious protection, since it was seen by Rome as a Jewish sect. When Rome burnt in 64AD, however, Nero needed someone to blame and so he blamed the Christians.</p>
<p>Nero's actions set the precedent for persecution of Christians that would last the next few hundred years. Rome was ruled by pagans who hated Christians. From the heart of Rome all the way up to places like Gaul (southern France) Christians were persecuted.</p>
<p>It is important to note that throughout this time period, Christians saw the hand of Satan at work in the Roman Empire, as both he and they sought to destroy Christ's church.</p>
<p>Skipping ahead a few centuries, we find that in 312AD a Roman Emperor (Constantine) becomes a Christian. This is part of a monumental shift for the way Christianity and Rome came to relate. Though (contrary to popular belief) Constantine did not legislate Christianity, he did legally protect Christians from persecution.</p>
<p>As Christianity gained favour with the upper segments of society (it's popular to like what the emperor likes), Rome grew in favour with the Christians as well.</p>
<p>Within a few generations, it seems, Christians had forgotten that Rome had for so long killed and persecuted their forefathers in the faith. Now Rome was a friend to them, and they could see it as nothing else.</p>
<p><a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWoGtqf2I/AAAAAAAAAGw/s6iWf-vjjHI/s1600-h/jerome.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5091133150762532706" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWoGtqf2I/AAAAAAAAAGw/s6iWf-vjjHI/s200/jerome.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>This is seen nowhere more clearly than in Jerome's reaction to the fall of Rome. In his writings, he laments the fall of the Roman empire, citing Scriptures originally speaking of <span style="font-style: italic;">Jerusalem</span>, and now using them in reference to Rome! Christians like him wept and lamented that this 'Christian' empire could fall.</p>
<p>This is a far cry from the view of Christians who had lived only a few generations before him, who saw Satan at work through the Roman empire.</p>
<p>How could this shift have happened?</p>
<p>It happened because Christians like Jerome were so consumed with what they could see in their own time, that they lost sight of what the scriptures truly do say about kingdoms, empires, and earthly regimes.</p>
<p><a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWcWtqf1I/AAAAAAAAAGo/oCLFUSRWWzA/s1600-h/augustine.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5091132948899069778" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_smsC-mDlffA/RqdWcWtqf1I/AAAAAAAAAGo/oCLFUSRWWzA/s200/augustine.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>Just as a side note, in closing, it must be noted that my personal hero, Augustine, did not fall prey to such a short view. In response to Jerome, Augustine would write letters to him, admonishing him to look past Rome to the City that will never fall. Likewise, against the pagans who said that the fall of Rome meant the fall (and failure!) of Christianity, Augustine wrote <span style="font-style: italic;">the City of God</span> which functions as a theodicy and an apologetic to the philosophers of his day.</p>
<p>What does all this have to do with us and how we view history today, as it unfolds? That's for another post.</p>
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